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 I know this horse has been beat to death (and by beat to death, I mean guides have been made on the subject) but I feel the need to insert some words of compassion rather than to simply say “you shouldn’t care about becoming popular here, it doesn’t matter” or “follow these steps and you’ll be dA elite overnight!”  The fact of the matter is we all long to be loved and liked in just about everything we do. We all want acceptance and validation from our peers. And when that acceptance and validation is nowhere to be found, the feeling is really not great at all.  We all know that feel bro.

I tend to believe what most people longing for popularity on dA are really after validation and friendship. RockstarVanity beautifully wrote about the subject of popularity on dA (or rather the desire for it) in her essay “Popularity…A Refreshing View” check it out here: fav.me/dh02ui

Popularity is ok I suppose, but it’s not all there is, and I don’t think it’s a good motivator when you’re looking for friends or even an enduring audience.  Rather than shooting for popularity, let’s begin with looking at some reasons you might not be getting the connections you’re looking for.

Of the most common answers to those who are confused as to why they don’t have the number or pageviews or watchers they’d like is that their art is not “good.” There are many, many, deviants who exist as “unknown” artists on dA who possess absolutely brilliant artworks in their galleries, yet they are unseen. How can that happen? Well for one, there are millions of deviants, it’s not hard for someone to blend into the crowd. But secondly, and this is quoted from RockstarVanity’s essay:

We're ALL unknown artists at the beginning, and we all have the same opportunities to become popular or known or whatever it is that whiney people aspire to around here. So there's no unfairness really. Just impatience.”

She goes on to further explain her reasoning in this way:

I'd like to state for the record, I am aware that mass-appeal subject matter DOES have an effect on the amount of attention that you or your work will get around here. Certain things - fan art and artistic nude photography spring to mind - will always have more viewers due to the nature of the subject. Please have the decency NEVER to gripe at someone "You're only popular because you take pictures of naked people/draw Naturo fanart/paint pictures of Sonic the Hedgehog". Everyone has the right to create art that they enjoy creating and they shouldn't be made to feel bad about that simply because lots of people like what they're doing.”

My point is that your gallery cannot always speak for itself. Only making art for the sake of popularity can easily lead to this:

And I can’t think of an artist alive who would want to take on the role of pure entertainer. BloodshotInk wrote “be an artist, not a number” in her journal entry titled “Pageviews and Popularity – The Real Deal.” Don’t sacrifice your integrity, artistic goals, or artistic quality by chasing something as illusive as popularity. Check out her blog here: fav.me/d3jilwo

 That now leads us to this question: how can I get an audience, let alone friends? Well, there are plenty of ways to do that! The easiest way to connect to fellow deviants is to talk to them! Visit the chatrooms, check out the forums, browse the journal portal, then comment! You meet friends online similarly to the way you meet friends in real life: by putting yourself out there! Other than engaging in the public meeting places on dA such as chatrooms and the forums, groups can help bring people together. Nearly all of my close friends here on dA were connected to me through groups! The others? Friends of friends!

 

Another problem is comments on your artwork. I can tell you that I rarely get comments on my work, maybe one or two. I’ve found that the best way to get comments on your work is to expose it to a larger audience by adding it to group galleries. There are hundreds of groups out there dedicated to commenting, but there are two that I believe have a really dedicated group of deviants who will give you not just one word comments, but even critiques! Those groups are :iconprojectcomment: and :icongetwatchers:. GetWatchers only exists as a way for you to gain a wider audience, but it also exposes you to hundreds upon hundreds of artwork and deviants you may not had been able to discover on your own! Pretty awesome, right?

 

Another reason to think about getting involved in a group is to discover the sub-communities existing within dA. While it’s awesome to talk to creative people in general (and those who admire the arts are certainly in that group too) it’s even better to talk to those who are also involved in the same kind of art making!  It’s easier to strike up conversations when you already have things in common too.  There are many groups dedicated to certain concentrations, rather than a collective of all media. Browse groups at groups.deviantart.com!

 

Now here’s the part you’re probably not going to want to hear: finding companionship, gaining an audience, or acquiring watchers will take time. How much time varies for each person, and how active they are on deviantART. However, this should not discourage you at all! All good things take time, and often times you enjoy them more when you’ve had to wait a little for them to happen. So what should you be doing in the meantime? Complaining? Feeling bad? No! Let’s summarize some of the ways you can become more acquainted with the community as a whole in addition to making art!

:bulletred: COMMENT! See something that catches your eye? Let the artist know why!

:bulletred: BROWSE THE FORUMS AND LEAVE A COMMENT! There are a whopping 29 forum categories!

:bulletred: BROWSE THE CHATROOMS AND LEAVE A COMMENT! There are vast numbers of chatrooms to check out, dive in and strike up a conversation!

:bulletred: JOIN A GROUP! Joining a group and submitting work to one will not/does not equal instant attention, but it does lead to broadening the number of people who can see your work and thus opening the threshold for conversation!

 So you see? There are plenty of ways to connect to your dA community, and unlike the general criticism that dA is a faceless entity, dA does indeed love you; dA is made of people just like you and me. If you’re still not feeling the welcome and love, head over to communityrelations for information, events, contests, features and general good vibes to see how the community as a whole is run. Plus, you can meet (and greet) Community Volunteers! Who/what are community volunteers, you say? The old name for CVs was “gallery moderator,” however, that is only part of what our CVs do! Here is an official description of what a Community Volunteer does via FAQ#85:

:bulletpink: Helping run community challenges and educational projects

:bulletpink: Supporting community events

:bulletpink: Helping moderate featured chats

:bulletpink: Helping moderate forums

:bulletpink: Being part of the #help team

:bulletpink: Being part of the team that moderate #devart and other official chatrooms

:bulletpink: Liaising with Moonbeam13 and fourteenthstar on community matters

:bulletpink: Bringing rockstar deviants to your attention via features, articles and Daily Deviations

A list of the current Community Relations Team can be found here: communityrelations.deviantart.…

 Now that I’ve discussed what you should do if you’re seeking attention, I would now like to touch upon things that should be avoided.

  • The first thing that should most certainly be avoided is hostility. It is totally understandable to be bummed out because you’re a little envious of someone, but turning that into anger or vicious behavior is a huge no-no. I’ve seen photographers and fanartists harassed on dA simply for belonging to genres that happen to be popular. I am a close friend of both a fanartist and a photographer, and I can assure you that neither of them chose those careers for the sake of so-called “popularity.”


 

  • The second thing you definitely should never do is leave desperate self-advertisement comments (aka attention-whore) on Daily Deviations (or anywhere else that receives heavy traffic like site wide announcements) such as these: “check out my gallery at me.deviantart.com!” “Please watch me!” “If you watch me, I’ll give you a llama/watchback.”  You might indeed get an uptick in your pageviews for those stunts, but chances are it will not be a positive outcome.

  • A third thing to avoid is drama. Don’t start fights, do call-outs, or bully. Don’t intentionally find controversy and whip it up. Don’t harass, or knowingly irritate. Don’t troll for attention. Trolling is an absolutely horrible way to earn attention, and the only respect to be gained is from others who go down that path. I’ve seen people grow tired of starting drama, and essentially leave dA because they were tired of being mean. It’s not cute, it won’t earn you real friends, it’s not good for your art, and it doesn’t pay off, do not do it.

  • The fourth thing to avoid is making art meant for attention grabbing. This can be from making fanart you aren’t connected to, to shocking and transgressive art, to simply starting to work in a new medium for the sole purpose of garnering attention. Never do anything with your art just for attention. Your artwork is one of the most personal and self-fulfilling things you can do don’t cheapen it.

  • The final thing to avoid is throwing a pity party. Before I go any further on this subject, let me first say that I am in no way making light of or generalizing depression (that includes other types of mood disorders, mental illnesses, or physical problems/illnesses that lead to depression) or low self-esteem. Each of those things are not a crutch or excuse and are not to be confused with this subject at all.  I’ve personally struggled with anxiety and depression, so I am in your corner if that is your battle. What I am talking about is a self-centered “poor me” outlook. An overall mopey attitude towards your dA experience will not help your cause in any way, plus negativity rubs off on others as well. There is no reason to be a curmudgeonly sourpuss.  


 

Phew! That’s a lot of info to digest! But I feel that it’s important to get it out there to you all! If there are articles, images, or words of wisdom you would like to add, please include them with your comment in the comment section below! If you don’t take anything else away from this blog, remember this: deviantART loves you!:heart:

 

 

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Just a bit of my own :twocents: on the subject of pageviews and popularity on dA. Discussion is encouraged as always!
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palowsky Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
I have been worrying myself of this recently, when I'm promoting my own works on DA but it doesn't get as much attention as my fanarts, regardless of how good it is. I assumed it might have been that my original works aren't as recognized in comparison. I have been more focused on and doing more of my own comics and just doing fanarts for the sake of being a fan (or for fun, as some can put it). Even fan-based things I made don't get in as much traffic sometimes. I think the best way of going about it is to simply not worry about it and just have fun with it, and if it doesn't work the way you want it to, try to figure out a way to fix it before giving up and move on with something else. Reading this article really made me think about my situation, and it has helped me. Thanks and I have favorited it.
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Xadrea Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2015  Professional Traditional Artist
Exactly! "Don't worry, be happy" is the best thing you can do for yourself here on dA :) It can seem like an uphill battle to get noticed sometimes, but these things take time and we all want to be noticed for the correct reasons rather than fleeting popularity :) 
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Aneksunamun Featured By Owner Edited Aug 1, 2014
Love your articles, very well-written! And these gifs... :D
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Xadrea Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
^ ^ thank you for your kind words! The gifs are my favorite part of writing these blogs :giggle:
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Aneksunamun Featured By Owner Aug 3, 2014
And they are my favourite part while reading! :D You use them perfectly, they are adding to the text so nice!
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Xsign-of-fireX Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you for writing this - Your points are good and valid, and it's nice seeing someone explaining this sort of thing so eloquently. It's helpful to me. I will shortly be spamming you with faves, so I apologize in advance. ^^
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Xadrea Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
:XD: I don't mind the fave spam lol. You're quite welcome! I'm glad I was able to help you and clear up any questions you might have had :)
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Art-of-DarkElegance Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2014  Professional General Artist
Peoples concerns over popularity is not always about "attention seeking". Popularity/Views=exposure=bigger audience=higher chance of "the right" people seeing your work=(possibly) furthering your career.
To say we all have the same opportunity...no. Reality is that we do not. The person that doesnt work on improving, on polishing their work, does not have the same opportunity as the person devoting hours and hours a day to their work.

What I find disturbing is how people are painting those with concerns about their views/popularity as somehow being lacking. Perhaps not technically(artistically) But somehow personally.
We denote a value for art...but devalue the feelings of the artist.
If all art is valuable and deserving...shouldn't all artists be?
Shouldn't their feelings(good and bad) be as valuable?  
Some, when reaching out with the "what am I doing wrong..." or "how can I be move popular", arent "whining" they are genuinely reaching out hoping someone will point them in the right direction. Tell them "if you do XYZ you can gain a better audience/improve your work/ up your (proverbial) game"
To paint them with a brush of "whining", devalues them, their feelings, their frustration.
Each person on here from the beginner to the advance professional counts(or should). For them to count, means they should be taken seriously. Not put down, or devalued.

That doesnt mean cotton coating things(one place I hold a gallery at is Epilogue, not know for being easy to get your work into. Trust me the hard knocks I received there helped me tremendously.) But it does mean actually realizing, -every- artist here has a face, feelings, frustrations, and are seeking to gain from their work and exposure here. Be it professional or personal.
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Xadrea Featured By Owner Feb 19, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
This blog is not an xyz checklist to "improve your game." I never in any way devalued the emotional aspect of feeling ignored. In fact it was the the very first thing I addressed in the opening paragraph (not sure how you missed that?)

I approached this subject from the point of view of deviantART as the potential audience. Many deviants are not actively seeking a career as an artist, but that does not mean they don't care about having an audience. If I were writing this to artists seeking to promote their work outside dA, this blog would be written very differently. 

I don't agree with your statement: To say we all have the same opportunity...no. Reality is that we do not. The person that doesn't work on improving, on polishing their work, does not have the same opportunity as the person devoting hours and hours a day to their work. There are more things factoring into people seeing and liking your artwork than artistic skill. Most of the great masters who we revere were not "discovered" until many many years after their deaths. That doesn't mean that we should not strive to make our work better, but it does mean that simply getting better at your craft doesn't mean you'll immediately have an advantage to get seen. 


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Art-of-DarkElegance Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2014  Professional General Artist
This is true. Many of the "masters" were starving, ignored artists in their time. It does not negate their talent nor technical prowess.  To say someone on here uploading pencil sketches that are rough, unpolished, quick and with out technical merit has the same opportunities as the person that is spending hours honing their stills and furthering their education(be it personal/self taught or within an educational body) is not reality. Talent is one thing. But when you do not push further, No you will not have the same opportunities as someone pushing further, harder, etc. THAT is reality.  Not all artists will have the same opportunities in life. Be it due to lack of actual interest in furthering their work, lack of interest in building the ground work to a career or (hate to say it) not being at the right place at the right time.
That is REALITY. Anyone that has been in the business for any length of time knows that. Whether you are in the business for a week or a decade. Whether you are in the business full time(I.E. studio work or employed by a company) or as a freelancer doing "your own thing". You find out very quickly that not everyone has the same chances.

When I made the note of "xyz checklight" I didnt say that you had noted that. That was -my- input on how some artists are reaching out. When they are "seeking attention" -at times- it is because they are wishing someone to actually help them. To actually go "hey here is what you can do to improve..".
It isnt always about attention seeking or pity parties or anything else.


The quote you noted about "... whiney people aspire to around here...", "whiny people"...THAT is how members are viewed? how members reaching out, frustrated, wanting help, input, instruction...anything to help them gain what they are seeking is seen as "whining".

A way to devalue and put a negative slant on it.
THAT was where my issue came in.  Its not always whining. Its not always attention seeking(in the negative sense). Sometimes it honestly is an utter frustration, hopelessness, desperate reaching out to a community to get help.
Sorry...if I just do not see people on here as "whiny".
But instead I see people trying to get what they are here for. Views, attention and learning.
Anyone saying they do not care about views...why then are you posting publicly? To share, right? To let your work be seen. But if it is not being viewed, then it is not being seen. You want your work seen. That is why you are here

We all care about it. Each of us should be treated with the same respect and our feelings valued. Not painted as "whiny". 

I have seen too many people here (in DA) pushed out of the site by comments like that. To many young and up and coming artists get utterly disheartened by comments like that. 
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Xadrea Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
Ok, I can tell that you didn't really read the entire quote (which wasn't mine) and the explanation of what the use of "whiny" even meant. Everything you're arguing about it addressed in this blog. This journal is about deviantART, and the communities here. It is not about practicing your artwork. I did not talk about "practice" or other things of that nature because that is not what this journal is about!
We all care about it. Each of us should be treated with the same respect and our feelings valued. Not painted as "whiny". I have seen too many people here (in DA) pushed out of the site by comments like that. To many young and up and coming artists get utterly disheartened by comments like that. 
I am imploring you to actually read, what I wrote. Please stop skimming and read it. 
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red-jello04 Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Quite true. If you're actually really good, you get the tendency to have your artwork stolen. Sometimes it's nice to know that there are those who would notify you about it and even made the initiative to raise an Art Theft to the moderators. It shows that they are concerned for you. :)

Everyone who joins at Deviantart always starts with no views. But with effort in putting art, reaching out to other fellow artists, share ideas, you will be "popular" in your own way without resorting to do anything horrible to your fellow artists. 
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Sonikkudrawings Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
"Sonic the hedgehog OMG"

This is an inspiring journal indeed. Ive seen that many of the aspects of how does a deviant gets into the community (both friendly and hostile ways) are determined of how the person feels, and being frustrated is quite easy here, but all matters. Ive found I can express myself way better here than on social sites.

I certainly dont regret being part of dA at all.
Great article!:sonicclap:
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elianoretta Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2014
Very insightful post.  I admit, I occasionally get down about people not noticing my work-art imitates life-but it's nice when someone does.  I think some people favorite items to get the other person to come visit their page and it makes me paranoid about whether or not they really like it or just want another page view.  So I hunker down like a the social hermit I am and try to occasionally comment on other's work that I like.

I post what I do for myself first and foremost, though.  DA's layout works for me.  I like it.  And I'm confidant enough with my own writing to not worry much that I don't get a lot of praise.  Posting poems and snippets of stories feels like I'm doing something to get out of my shell, like I'm getting things done, and that's my main focus.
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shadowandamyrose Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
The easy way i get comments is comment on others i usually get comments back and if not i fave a nd watch people alot it helps and it's just spreading the love, you don't get watchers just sitting around ^^
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Kohaya7Kae-13 Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
That is a truly well written article. I admit, at one point I also once thought that popularity was nice. But then, that thought was pretty quick to fade off, because I realized it isn't really all about it. I do fanarts mostly of SasuHina from Naruto, but I don't do it because it's popular, actually it's one of the most hated pairings out there. But I never stopped with it, because I'm really just in love with the pairing and it gives me inspiration. Now though, I mostly draw my Original Characters, because I believe that no matter how much they're not really gaining attention for now, I love drawing them because it's what makes me feel whole.

My Original Characters are something that I created and own, not others. 

That thought simply makes me feel encouraged to continue and pursue this field. Drawing is really my most passion out of all things. >w<
Thank you for such wonderful article to read.
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Woohoorandom Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm extremely unpopular, (Maybe it would help if I actually uploaded sometime, huh me?)
The thing that bugs me the most is I get literally no critiquing comments. In my 1 or two years of being here, I haven't got a single critique, but hopefully those two groups can help out! c:
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DamaiMikaz Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I think what many people out here don't realize that popularity has so little to do with the quality of your art.

Many people think they're not good enough, just because they're not recognized. But the point is... getting recognition is not about art. Not at all. It's about social interaction. The mistake many people make is to think that DeviantArt is an art site, while it's in concept far closer to social media than you would think. Therefore, the default rules for social media marketing are pretty easy to apply. Having followed several social media courses for my job, I wanted to try this for myself, to see if it is true. And you'd be surprised how much of this is actually true. It's so true it hurts, sometimes. 

When I started all of this, I was a pretty unknown DA member with 'just' 500 watchers. I made it up to 20k eventually. And while I do realize my art had improved over the last year, I'm sure it wasn't all art. It's mostly community work. As for feedback on my art... I get it a lot. But then again... I can't say I have empty watchers (the ones that fave and run) since most people did follow me either for the art or the journals that I wrote. If you're interested in the full journey, please check the journal that I wrote about that. It might be interesting, considering the topic: damaimikaz.deviantart.com/jour…
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Xadrea Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
Very true! Quality is definitely important in making your work, but when it comes to popularity we can obviously see that quality is usually on the lower rungs of the ladder (especially on social media). What it usually comes down to is how well you can make connections (or market yourself), and we all know that artists are pretty bad at selling themselves :XD: We all feel that our art can and should speak for itself, but that's not always the case. Improving your art will earn you some recognition, but social interaction to get that improved art seen is 100% necessary.
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DamaiMikaz Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well. 
It actually works both ways. 
Making good art is a way to get the community interested. And giving feedback to the community is a way to keep people interested ^^
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Espliego Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2014  Student Digital Artist
I love journals like this! Not only are they very informative, but the gifs keep me so entertained instead of overwhelmed with all the text :D
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Azuri-chann Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2014  Hobbyist
Well said >v<
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Espliego Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2014  Student Digital Artist
:D
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RoadZero Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
"The fourth thing to avoid is making art meant for attention grabbing. This can be from making fanart you aren’t connected to, to shocking and transgressive art, to simply starting to work in a new medium for the sole purpose of garnering attention. Never do anything with your art just for attention. Your artwork is one of the most personal and self-fulfilling things you can do don’t cheapen it."

This should go in golden letters.
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LordDominic Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks for taking the time to make this. I sometimes find myself feeling this way too, and I think part of it is that I've got some self-esteem issues and I feel like art is one of the few things I can do that's actually worth a darn (I also have issues with commenting because I'm shy and have social anxiety and there's no "edit comment" option so I'm afraid of making a fool of myself every time I comment). This journal actually feels really supportive.

I'm going to take some time and check out the galleries of the people that posted here, see if I see anything I like, and maybe find some new artists to watch or pieces to favorite, maybe make some connections this way.

Also, love the gifs. I like the bit of humor they add.
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Xadrea Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
Please do check out groups :D It's a great way to gradually start meeting people and finding more art to look at. Also, it's an non threatening way to get to see more of the community at large than surfing through profiles :)
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Skargrubdamek Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2014
Me would not mind being known fer being guud at sumting, id rather have dat than being famus. Having no privercy would suck,
since me needs allot of dat ting. Just having allot of da boyz mucking around afta you aint worth it, not if they act like whiny
gitz. 
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Shadoweddancer Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2014   Digital Artist
I could care less about being popular.  I'd rather be respected for producing beautiful images, and ones that actually sell.  I don't have to have a gazillion pageviews to do that.  That is the reason I'm here for the most part, along with learning new techniques and helping educate the new people coming into my art style.  Not to downplay making friends, but I have a hard enough time with the active watchers I have and can't keep up with my messages.  I rarely go to the front page because I'm not interested in fanart, anime' etc.  I see few images on the vaunted front page that I like and I honestly doubt very many of these artists are selling their work.  However, I say to each his own, so I stay in my little corner of DA and enjoy making fractal art and the friends that I make along the way.  The only time I make much noise is when DA itself doesn't work (which is right at the moment). 

But thank you for posting this.  I'm getting tired of people watching me just because they think I will watch them back or begging me to check out their newest anthro, anime' etc.  Why watch someone if you never fave any of their work?  The only thing I do to drum up interest is give out llamas, and that is more to promote and educate about fractal art (and because I do find people to watch that aren't in my genre) than it is to get pageviews.  I've met some very cool people on DA from randomly giving llamas.    
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Tundrakurpitsa Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2014
or be an annoying attention whore and stalk those who's premium members ( i have it because it's easier to to find good art, but never on their sites). i'm not a nice person so i avoid social interaction on purpose (i'll end up leaving a rude comment to those stalkers sooner or later)
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bundleofstring Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2014
I'll be honest: I do want to become popular, but only because my art would be exposed to more people. I thought that was what everyone wanted. but that doesn't seem to be the case =0. 

Anyway, I've been seeing this everywhere, but I have NO idea how you get into chat room XD
Where do you find one? How do you open one up? 
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Xadrea Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
You can browse the chatrooms at chat.deviantart.com from there you can browse, join, or make your own chatroom :)
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0bsidianFire Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2014  Student Digital Artist
It's on the drop-down list next to the deviantArt logo on the top of the page (mouse-over the arrow). But here's the link: chat.deviantart.com/
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bundleofstring Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2014
:O

omg

there it is!

THANK YOU! :D

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Lazy-remnant Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Very nice. Even an (un)dead horse needs to be beaten from time to time, I guess. :)

I think people who wants to be popular often doesn't realize what awaits them when they reach that point. Just take a look at celebrities; From a glance, they may live a glamorous dream-like life, but look a bit deeper, and you'll know they also have their own problem, often at a completely different level from us, the..... anonymous masses (relatively speaking).

Being watched and followed by so many eyes will force you to pay attention of every single little things you do, because all of it has the potential to being blown out of proportion. Slipped at something, and the fans will never let you live down that fact.
Privacy will be compromised. 

Say you've become popular because of a single works or a series you did. People start following you just for that. When you want to try new things, expect some complaining and/or a drop in popularity because your fans doesn't want anything else from you. 
You might think it's just a job, but don't expect fans to think that way. Hideo Kojima didn't really want to continue Metal Gear Solid after the first one, but the enormous popularity, fan pressure, and orders from his superior, ensured that he didn't have much choice. He didn't take that nicely, of course; that's the source of MGS2's infamous near-filibuster ending. He even received death threats from crazed fans, much like Evangelion's Hideaki Anno, when he announced that he wouldn't come back for MGS4, which forced him to return to director's seat for that game.

It's quite tiring being popular. The pressure from everyone can easily force you to do what they want, not what you want, until you burned out and disappear from public view.

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Vvendetta77 Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
great entry!
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SunsetTheDragon Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Great article, you made a lot of good points here! :clap:

I have had a lot of people say I'm one of those unseen artists but I don't really care anymore. Sure, it's nice to get attention, but I really don't care about it, I draw for the sake of enjoyment, not for pageviews etc.

I'm actually guilty of not commenting enough, I only comment if the piece really catches my eye, or if I want to give the artist a little critique.
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TheFluffyPlushlin Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2014
i think i'm one of those people who draws only for their friends ^^' i like it when people i don't know fave things too, but i mostly draw for the watchers i know.  
thought, this helped me a bit. (i found the gifs very funny XD)

i'm kinda a bit shy to.... make new friends, or to be popular. so if i comment on something, it's extra rare. 
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Gelodevs Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2014   Traditional Artist
nice article 
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CypherVisor Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2014
Very nice article! :nod: (specially the gifs :giggle: )

Btw, imo popularity can be a pain when you start getting hundreds of comments, replies, notes, etc. :P
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Xadrea Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
Thanks! and yes, catering to a crowd can get to be more of a job than fun. I wanted to link it to this journal, but I remember a really well written journal called something like "dA is not your job" or something, but I couldn't find it :XD: It's times like these I miss the old news section, it was a little easier to find articles and blogs and stuff :lol:
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CypherVisor Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2014
Lol haha... :XD:

And no problem! :)
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MayJasmine Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh my gosh, thank you so much for this article! I won't lie when I say sometimes I feel the same way (you're only popular because blah) towards certain others (but I think it's something deeper than popularity envy. I just know it.) but I don't want to start a ruckus just because of that! I believe artists should be respected as people. I love how you wrote this article; it was just what I wanted and needed to read. Thank you so much for this! Faving it. :heart:
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simpleCOMICS Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Good points being made here. I do believe that the majority of deviantart's membership consists of people with at least a little bit of insecurity in their work (and selves). Your points on validation are really insightful.

Now I feel bad. I made one of those charts. And ironically it's the most popular thing in my gallery. Go figure.
I was even updating it for a new release but now I'm not so sure.
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Xadrea Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
Really? :XD: I didn't know you had made one lol! Well, you know I wouldn't judge you if you updated it, from what I noticed, a lot of "popularity tips" revolved around a person's presence and involvement on dA anyways ^ ^
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simpleCOMICS Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2014  Student Digital Artist
I made it originally as a joke, poking fun at what actually IS popular on DA, only meaning for it to be funny. But some people took it seriously and some even claimed that it worked. So I dunno.

Here it is, if you're interested simplecomics.deviantart.com/ar…

The most viewed/commented/faved thing in my gallery, and I made it in a couple hours, just for fun, unlike all the time and effort I put into comics, lol XD.
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ieelleme Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2014  Student General Artist
Huh, I didn't know about communityrelations , I recently started a group ( FriendHunt ) dedicated to helping people foster relationships through deviantArt because I wasn't able to find a group that actually helped many people find friends. Thank you for this information! I wish I would have known about the group you mentioned 5 years ago when it was founded. Maybe I wouldn't have taken such a long hiatus from deviantArt. Do you mind if I mention your blog within a blog in my group? -I actually already listed it, I didn't think to ask, if you have a problem with this, I will remove it immediately-
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Xadrea Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
I don't mind at all that you've added this to your group :) And yes! Check out community relations to hear all the latest community buzz around dA. 
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phoenixleo Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2014
And Complaints forum for most of the drama buzz around dA. :P
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Xadrea Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2014  Professional Traditional Artist
:lol:
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ieelleme Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2014  Student General Artist
Thanks for the swift response! :D
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